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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
对国家是罪人，对我家是客人。前面比后面处理得好。没想到时至今日还会有商业片导演涉足这种冷门的知识分子流放题材。穷则独善其身，达则兼济天下，官场失意，大隐于世，寄情山水，家国情怀。而从儒学到西学的观念转变，则是时代巨轮的滚滚向前。入世也好，出世也罢，师徒二人最终在某种意义上都成为了自己理想的殉道者，也依然与这个世俗社会格格不入。
班鳐走的路班鳐知道，黄雕鱼走的路黄雕鱼知道，为兹山的鱼作谱，探究鱼的道、而放弃在性理之学的框架中解释变化多端难以把握的人性，在黑暗中做一个闪闪发光的人是丁若镛选择的道。如果不能在生活中按照书本中学的道理生活，那只能按照自己的性子活下去，摘下官帽、回到海边的昌大也找到了自己的道。也许黑暗才能酝酿色彩和光亮，要不为何片尾那抹蓝色出现在小鸟身上时我们都雀跃了呢。
「牛逼」二字我已经说累了，前半段告诉我们，知识改变命运，后半段告诉我们，知识改变个屁！嘴上的主义，心里的生意，在大自然的智慧面前，人类是如此的丑陋。
想起了徐霞客，苏轼兄弟，雅典娜圣斗士。
非常优秀的电影，意味深长举重若轻，探讨的是很深刻的话题，可是出口是一本鱼谱。现在不是讨论谁该拍出这个电影的时候，我们距离这个已经越来越遥远了，现在是我们应该如何首先对自己以及现有的文化进行反思的问题。文化是脆弱的，自然是强大的，在这之间我们如何取舍，片子并没有给出一个答案，但是已经足够好看。薛景求演技返璞归真，表现真是太好了。
韩国似乎终于拍古装不那么尬了，不强行高大上之后，有了另一个问题：电视剧感。
4.5分，茅店晓灯青欲灭，古老的世界，现代的思想。钓到巨大鱼那一幕我都笑出声了，还有双双恋爱那段。很高兴自己也有这样关系的老师，以及不灭的好奇心，还想看看能变成鸟的海胆。
从黑山岛的无人识字的自在宁静，俯视朝廷中的尔虞我诈的伦理野蛮。
特别喜欢吃鱼的部分。黑白片确实有水墨调，工整但不匠气。丁若铨不侍君王，不奉天主，无论东西，只吸纳道义和学识，士大夫所论出世与入世，放到他师徒二人身上，出身不同导致分道扬镳，节气相近才有殊途同归。最后讲“活成飞升之鹤虽不坏，但即便满身泥泞，也可像兹山一样，外表黯淡却生机勃勃” 基本也是出淤泥而不染，“心中万不可蒙尘”。
天主教背景，讲的是东方和西方在文化政治方面的冲撞。
没想到韩国电影还能拍出流放文官的生活，意趣和性情十足，追思先贤，启迪心性，所谓“道不行，乘桴浮于海”、“长太息以掩涕兮，哀民生之多艰”、“穷则独善其身,达则兼济天下”、“时见幽人独往来，缥缈孤鸿影”这些意境和情绪都在这部电影里了，如果作为一个读书人研习、背诵先人的知识智慧，只为去考试和获取功名，成为颟顸的肉食者，抵达食物链的上一层，那是不是愧对这些学问的创立者，违背了这些知识和智慧问世的初衷？
感觉是高票房和获大奖的节奏，希望票房破千万，然后让我们卞约汉得个大奖吧
流放生活这么惬意的吗？不过看他们作的五绝七绝怎么那么想笑呢，打油诗的感觉了
古朴的影像，匠心独具的拍摄手法，一种浪漫的情怀又痛彻心扉的顿悟。工整又整齐的排列组合。技法成熟表演圆润情感饱满。
理学和格物，入世和出世，民间疾苦声，自由平等观。若是流水账记录和商业片套路得以润化，真乃神片。海胆化身的青鸟也还是要躲在兹山中方能在污泥里飞过，任尔东西南北风。
有人却天生乐得跻身同流如鳝鱼入污泥。
前有《思悼》，后有《兹山鱼谱》，在对国家过往儒家文化的深刻反思这一方面，韩国竟然又一次走在了中华文化圈的前列
7分。豆瓣分高的有点可怕，但真的是不敢苟同。整体的那种闲散清逸的感觉还是不错的，但总觉得什么都搭了一些，却什么都没深入去讲。无论是前期被流放的天主教问题，中段讲究实事求是的鱼谱编写故事，或者末端加入的官场黑幕，都是点到即止，每一段都能说出太多内容，却以这样的形式放在一起，未免有些可惜了。特别是最终段，我是不理解为什么要拍昌大仕途的情节，感觉没太多的必要，颇有狗尾续貂之感。
更不必说在君君臣臣三六九等的封建下，
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