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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
不想去評判克隆人的道德云云，只是想知道，如果是為了愛，就可以無限延續嗎？只要有一絲的可能性，是不是都要盡一切所能嘗試？
节奏很慢很慢。主要是讨论。我们需要讨论，我们需要探索。
作为一个资深“腹黑”，一直在等待阴谋论和大反转。在失望的同时，感受软科幻下的真诚。观影过程中很难不代入两方面的情感，是我会不会选择这种方式？看着自己被“自己”代替是何种感觉？发现“自己”是自己的替代品又是何种感受？那个一毛一样的自己真的是自己吗？可能每个人的选择和感受各不一样，但是影片里男主把这种情感诠释的很丰富。最后向孩子和妻子告别的一段既温馨又虐心，世事无常，人生短暂，何不把美好留给别人。作为苹果出品的影片，很难不让人联想到苹果公司想要推出的黑科技概念，而人间清醒的只有狗狗。四星半。
我一直不排斥各种科技带来的便利，但比起克隆个自己陪伴别人，我更喜欢意识上传延续自己的idea。毕竟男主使用这功能没花钱，而商业化以后一定更贵吧，到时候没钱的人们，要从治病还是为家人服务里选一个了，而如果把这个选择权给家人，会有更多有趣的故事吧。
虽然通篇看上去心情很压抑，但看到男主死前交待完所有未尽事宜，死能瞑目也算是完美的人生结局。
是不是还在渴求知音，希望有人心有灵犀？事实上，你自己都无法和自己做到心有灵犀，你会向自己挥舞拳头。终究爱是自私的，我难以容忍另一个人代替我来爱你，爱也是无私的，终究我还是希望你能够幸福。因为设定无法给当事人参与选择的机会，因此带来了足够的个体化的情感张力，让自我价值和感情价值的平衡与争夺非常纠结，扮演小世界的上帝带来了无尽痛苦。另外，老生常谈的哲学问题，什么才能定义一个人，是物质构成是记忆是情感？或许我会选择另一种退而求其次的观点认为未来也不可能移植记忆与情感。
7.6分，值得一看的软科幻电影，可能最近悬疑片看太多了，还以为这是个局，其实就是个关于人生、死亡和爱情的故事。阿里的演技真的是封神。
理智与感性相碰撞 很残忍很现实 大概都会说:去他的伦理道德 我可以接受
超喜欢这种极简，色调统一的画面，感觉很舒服。结局很温馨，如果是我，也会做这样的选择吧
再见你一次
对结尾比较失望，我还以为有什么反转，结果就是想单纯的引起思考？问题是片中思考太肤浅，不够深入，披着科幻的剧情片，然而探讨却是隔靴搔痒。
聚焦於很小的切口上去展示這頗具顛覆性的設想，不置入太多的批判，只是讓兩個他去互相感知對方。男主內心的糾結與傷感，仿生人害怕被淘汰的恐慌，整個作品的命題，我們活著是為了他人還是自己？ 太棒了。
天鹅挽歌是个科幻片 人们总是对未知的事物充满想象力 对已知的事物束手无策 剧情老套却令人动容（镜头舒适 风景绝美）
弱化了伦理的探讨，取而代之的是抒写家庭、亲情、爱情的温暖，让整部影片不会过于严肃，而是充满了温度，很难得的一部科幻片。
“我现在是在告诉你，我不想再沉默了。我们开始沟通，我们开始解决问题。”听完卡隆眼睛紧闭，对于即将到来的死亡，他无能为力。“我没事”“我没事”，人总能在崩溃，甚至临死边缘，说我没事。
看得有点悲痛，男主的种种情绪都能理解，而且深感同情，却又感到些少自私。自私是因为把所有的痛苦自己独自去面对，欺骗了自己的家人，毕竟就算是克隆人都只有一个个体，个体与个体之间哪怕做得一模一样，都不是同一个个体，同一个自己～
从某种程度上来说，
癌症将死，你会不会让一个克隆人延续你对家人的爱？一个人孤独的走向死亡，被人遗忘的确是件痛苦的事！简洁干净的画面，脸部特写，钢琴乐，缓缓的讲诉了一个温暖的故事！超爱电影里第一视角的画面！
I love you , always have, and always will, 泪目
大晚上看真的会看哭，克隆人的伦理一直在被讨论，这个电影的角度会让我再次审视家人
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