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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
惊了，乍看是个环保片！仔细想想，应该是在讨论个人身体的控制权，以及对于“人”的定义权。viggo叔这个角色，这个造型，换个人来演估计都会很装，他就刚刚好。
不太行，并不晦涩，但是执行没法还原或者说有效的表达好概念，最后变成流于假鬼假怪的自嗨。但是小K终于有演技了，表现还不错。看艺术片比较容易遇到的尴尬就是有佳句无佳章，也没有能控制观众情绪的能力，顶多属于一个桥段，或者是单纯为概念设计一个场景。但从文本变成视觉，变成电影，就需要很多东西才行，光靠演员玩先锋，硬造留白可不行。你说我要给概念打高分，就没啥意义了，毕竟拍的是电影。各演各的在这部片子里非常明显，简直是尴尬教科书。
越来越不喜欢这种概念片，完全放弃了故事和叙事么？
内脏暴露狂，额。令人难以理解的审丑艺术。
当疼痛被精密手术量化展示时，语言也只能如梦中呓语般赘述情感。以为是卡夫卡式的饥饿艺术家展开，却发展的越来越迷离，落在了救赎上。
柯南伯格和我八字不合
蛤……蛤……蛤，还是那样吧，我永远都get不到柯南伯格。
终于到了现代“行为艺术家”对人体出手的年代了？行为艺术和生物进化的概念拼接缝合，加上劣质道具，器官特写和演员各自为政且显而易见满头雾水的做作表演，这片子真是变态和解读爱好者的狂欢
假如每年都能长出一个新的肾的话，那每年都能用上苹果最新款啦🐶
k的气泡音真的很让我出戏 柯南伯格的设定也是充满了年代感
2. 电影结尾，柯南伯格反其道而行之去宣扬“body is reality”，否认了未来世界中精神的主体性和存在的意义，反倒去强调肉体本身的价值，这是一个很新颖的观点，但个人其实不太接受这样的诠释（就这样选择去接受并宣扬现代科技下人类的异化吗？）。
挺福柯/德勒兹的，高级sm就是绞刑架下的高潮
工作十小时之后看这个真的有点too much，还是比《钛》好很多。
"Surgery is the new sex." 概念不错，但是执行潦草。
在一个柯南伯格式的世界中，完美地呈现了艺术、性、政治、技术、后人类等主题的互文性与多义性。没有痛觉、没有感染，与巨虫般的床、椅连接，消化塑料的工业废品；人和物的界限不再清晰，肉欲和恋物融为一体，sex is surgery；充满性意味的切割衍生出新的美学，矫正与异化的张力造就了宗教式的狂热；当naturally unnatural出现，统治力量仍试图像割除肿瘤一样抹去异质性的存在；然而，身体虚弱、进食困难的症状已经昭示了人类如倾覆巨轮一般的命运，雅典的平静海岸、梦中的真切疼痛则是对普罗米修斯后裔的最后挽歌。较前作更为丰满，比《钛》那种概念组合好太多（怀疑那个耳朵人跳舞就是在阴阳）；如果简化为新奇性体验当然看不出哪好。
这片从出预告我就期待 概念挺好…科幻惊悚的设定也挺好…但我还是没弄懂里面的人到底想干什么…
概念我也很喜欢，多重进化已经重塑了现实，艺术就是要抓住这种变化当中转瞬即逝的情绪并且放大，或反叛现实，或利用现实做出自己的声明，或顺应现实。类比就是波普艺术，利用崭新的大生产时代的材料和题材做艺术，或者像达达主义一样反对一战造成的现实，媒介就是时代的新产物，在这里就是自己没有痛感的身体和快速无痛手术设备。吃塑料这个想法我也很喜欢，确实也是个办法。
这部总体感觉柯南伯格在熟悉的bio horror之下隐藏了一些很私人的东西，hugo和lea的表演很精彩！
痛觉丧失，变异失序，切除变异以维护本来的人体秩序，还是移植新生以主导进化方向，当人类还在为了主导权互相争斗，大自然已经改变了人类的基因，让人类自己去消化那些人类的制造物了。在大自然面前，人类何其渺小。
3. 很多人把这部电影与《钛》进行比较，虽然两者的表现方式有些相似，但是导演想表达的想法是完全不同的。《钛》想表达的是渴望重新拥有最纯粹而真实的人性，这是一种精神上的追求；而《未来罪行》则选择回归肉体，去探寻肉体的意义。
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