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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
在看这部电影之前，我推荐另外一部电影《恶魔的崛起》。
如果撇去种族清洗和大屠杀这个前提，这种会议是所有集权政治的必需品，“圆满成功”会是不变的归宿…群戏很精彩，如果改变成舞台剧一定也很棒。
最后一段很精彩，应该是秘书长，对于灭绝犹太人政策本事并未直接挑战，他没有直接庇护犹太人，但是，他也知道作为人性的根本，杀人，而且是屠杀，一定会深深扭曲每个人的人性。虽然屠杀者貌似强者，完全碾压众人的生命，但是，他自己之后的生活，精神上的煎熬，将永无止境。
对外战争和对内种族战争是国家的一体两面。国家不允许吃了饭不干活的人存在。这就是纳粹牲口意识形态下塑造的爱国精神
很工整的一部电影，加菲及各演员的表现都很棒，音乐也还行。节奏来说稍微有点紧，叙事很复杂的情况下加入了歌舞，总觉得很赶。那段爱情真的很可惜。
——史上最恐怖会议：万湖会议
不是一个完美的结尾却是一个好的结尾，梦想不会因为失败而停止。主题很喜欢，但是摄影拉跨音乐拉跨演员拉跨，跟«爱乐之城»比真的就太不精致了，加菲真不适合演这种片，他和高斯林的气质一个天上一个地下。
对于原作未读的观众还是比较友善的 整个脚本很平 没有什么特别大的起伏 包括声优阵感觉蛮浪费的 作画也是意料之外的一般 嘛 就是搬漫画上大荧幕 同类叙述方式可以参考一下当年X剧场版如何调动情绪 但对于年轻一代恐怕是永远无法共感吧
细思可怕，不寒而栗的是，一群政治官僚、军人竟然是在法律的框架下，如此“正义凛然”地讨论对一个种族，不计其数的人实行灭绝，最为毛骨悚然的是，明明大家“心照不宣”，却坚持使用“最终解决”这样近似中性的字眼。把一件如此肮脏可耻的事情努力推进成为合法的事情，纳粹可耻！当然也能窥见官僚体系的制衡、博弈，精彩的群戏。
一群衣冠楚楚的战争贩子，在万湖边上的城堡里，喝着咖啡，吃着西餐，讨论着如何杀人的问题……
轴心说“轴心”是轴心
600万犹太人
4/5 | 对一个正常社会而言，平庸之恶的出现当然百害而无一利。但对归附于不道德体制的个体而言，ta总能凭借体制赋予自身的他者化冷漠，形成某种程度的自圆其说，而解除个人在道德层面的反思。万湖会议某种意义上就是平庸之恶的集中反映和体现。
前半段感觉节奏怪怪的，但回去一看，发现剧场版简直分镜级还原漫画😂但在大荧幕上，侧重就不好像漫画里用一小格特写和大跨页展现地那么明确了。后半段开始打戏观感就很好。第0卷本身比较单薄；但如果读过漫画后续，观看体会就有意思多了。
如果一块面包被卖到50万马克，那么，我也会拿起枪支，反抗犹太人资本下的政府。
就是get不到那么高的评价啊，听下来也没有印象深刻的歌，哈哈哈。
前半个小时太吃力了，人又多，职位有多，名字复杂，语速飞快，表示跟不上，不适合我的电影。
渐入佳境。前半段过于凌乱，穿插过于密集，最后30分钟节奏进入正轨，情感浓度上升。（怀才不遇的追梦故事实在是缺乏新鲜感，我反而更好奇《傲慢》的故事
如果一个国家讨厌你 那么这个国家缺乏包容 如今全欧洲讨厌这个民族 以及近代这个民族的所作所为 当年元首的决定 是正确的
挺应景的，而且我好喜欢德国人拍电影的风格，明明只讲一个会议，越看越吸引人。
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