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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
目前国产类型片中难得一见的复杂剧本，颇有些一波三折，还有一个比较合理的小反转。看得出，这剧本经过了精心的打磨修改，导演编剧当废了不少时间，好不好看放一边，至少他用心了。影片呈现的整体质感也不错，从始至终情绪统一，置景也比较精细，年代感也做出来了。只不过可能因为追求这个“淡”字及影片艺术性，叙事方面节奏有些拖，有些散，有些飘，其实如果把影片时长精简到100分钟，或者放弃艺术性就按照商业犯罪片的节奏拍，成片的可看性与精彩度会提升不少。当然，即使是现在这样，这片也值得大大鼓励，毕竟国产片认真动脑子的太少了。
大概会留下一些铃木亮平PTSD…上林这个角色的去人性化进程完成得差不多了，而日冈某种程度上也确实比第一部level up了。比起前作确实有气势上的差距，但日冈的处境某种程度上也有符合这种落差的悲凉感。以及，西野七濑另我出戏…
这个暴力美学有点深作欣二的意思，但是纯粹感官刺激就没啥太大意思
接着第一部讲广岛警察跟当地黑社会的对抗，主人公从役所广司变成了松坂桃李，作为一部黑帮类型片，暴力场面写实程度不亚于北野武的黑社会系列，铃木亮平扮演的上林十分出彩，把人物性格里的戾气和残忍演得入木三分，日本黑帮影史上又多了一个人狠话不多的反社会雅库扎形象。
摄影不错，几处取景相当诗意。表演不行，都太一板一眼。导演过于沉醉对舞蹈的设计，却失掉故事节奏。挺简单的人和事，讲啰嗦了。6
从驾车追逐戏和两场单挑中能看出，日系黑帮片在节奏和戏点处理上不如韩系黑帮片。一如上一部特具年代感，但总体还是缺少些东西。主角想游弋黑白之间，但很多思考方式和行为动机显得并不聪明，全片下来人物立得比较模糊。倒是反一够疯够BT，立志复仇看不惯当代生意化解仇恨的休战。时代在变，终究难挽回。
你不能说抄一个诺贝尔的小说名就是戛纳片了吧，毕志飞逐梦演艺圈也报名过戛纳呢，真敢发通稿呢。
本来是因为西野小姐姐去看的这个电影，结果发现了一个好消息和一个坏消息：好消息是，这的确是一部出色的电影，我随后找了第一部——完整地看了两部曲。算是黑帮电影里的佼佼者了（虽然日本黑帮给人感觉比起意大利或者哥伦比亚的黑社会档次要低了）；坏消息是，西野七濑是全剧中演技最差、最不在线的一个（或者这也是正常的一件事情）。
没达到悬疑片基本的水平，只是在用不明所以的预告、小红书营销和某些不知名奖项给自己贴金，骗人来看，搞得跟真的似的。
这一集里没有孤狼，只有落水狗罢了。剧情还是比较冗长了，果然少了役所广司，恶警的感觉弱了，官僚体制下的警察果然是干不成任何事情的。铃木亮平把疯批极道演得很刑，无差别挖眼，冰锥插脑，激情断指，不守规矩的黑社会最终都是要吃枪子的。里面有斋藤工好评！
希望白石和弥再接再厉，将暴力与血的盛宴继续下去。
结尾弱了 和第一部比就差很多 两头被利用的狼
虽然故事和拍摄都很棒 但是总有一天说不出的差点儿意思，给4星吧。
血腥和暴力都有了，但总感觉差口气，劲儿憋着没放出来。
悬疑是外壳，这是一部诚意十足的剧情片啊。在最后的舞台上，严华看着林音的感觉一切文字都无法形容，光凭这一场戏，这部电影就已经无法被时间抹去它的价值。
拉胯，第一部是黑社会，第二部简直过家家，你应该起名叫双雄对决差不多
节奏太慢，其实剧情还行。。尤其是日系小姐姐。。哈哈哈哈。。
说话就吼，嗓门很大，还很暴力，两个组没有大规模的火拼，只有黑老大和警察的肉搏
远山，淡影……其实很有自己的气质。这部电影的摄影、美术、灯光绝对是加分项。查走私那部分虽然对案件和人物塑造有帮助，但导致叙事节奏上有点散了，如果再好好调整下节奏，成片观感会更好的。这种娓娓道来的文艺片节奏，注定是要遇知音的电影，喜欢的人会很喜欢，追悬疑刺激和喜欢爽片的肯定不买账，还有些人不知道是真的看不懂还是没认真看，都出字幕了还问谁是凶手等等一堆傻问题
主演跟着《孤狼》一起变2了，就传承个打火机？
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